Metal Y.T. Corp all metal PPK/S PFC model gun

[nstgprops]

Does anyone own this PFC model gun or have any info on Metal Y.T. Corp?

http://www.modelguns-worldwide.com/ppks_black.htm

Are they a reputable manufacturer? Is this gun well-made? What's the metal? (I assume it's zinc). How does it compare to the HW / ABS Marushin PFC?

Problems / recommendations? Please post -- I'd love more info on them. Thanks.

nstgprops

[mark]

The gun appears to be one of the Taiwan made modelguns that where made until recently. These where made with zinc castings and they where fairly well made modelguns. However, a politician in Taiwan was wounded by an assailant that had a modified Taiwanese modelgun (supposedly) anyway, the government of Taiwan moved to restrict the sale and manufacture of modelguns in Taiwan after the shootings.

I think that these modelguns are still in production. However, they now have plastic barrels and some are now made out of plastic instead of zinc alloy to appease the Taiwanese government.

These modelguns are seemingly reliable and they are fairly detailed. Although, they have been noted to have really bad slide/frame markings. Whether this is due to a possible trademark issue is unknown..

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[mark]

As for the price, the Taiwan made modelguns are a good buy if they are bought for slightly less than the typical Japanese all zinc modelguns. The Japanese made all zinc modelguns are finished far better due to the fact that the Japanese want realism more than just a display toy.

[tiksom]

WaShan or Y.T.Corporation or HwaSan is a Taiwanese company, as Mark already said.

The made all-metal models that were relatively cheaper than their Japanese counterparts and worked pretty good. The downside was finish quality. Recently they sell models with some plastic parts, as already mentioned.

I have their Beretta M84 and it raises more eyebrows than an ABS versions (cap-firing or airsoft) dute to weight. I find WaShan to be very good balance between attention to details and price. Much, much better than Denix dummy models, they can fire caps in quite solid action. Before I got my first one I thought these are poor quality overall and did not plan to get one. Changed my mind quickly afterwards :-)

Main problem seems to be availability, and therefore prices. Modelguns Worldwide is probably the only vendor outside of Asia.

[mark]

Its interesting that the WaShan modelguns seem to vary in weight according to the others that have posted their reviews on the WaShans in the past.

Some seemed to be very light (WaShan's Government .45) But, the others like their PPK/S maybe heavy in comparison. I haven't had one in my hand to gauge the weight though.

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[mark]

http://www.dentrinityshop.com/pr_list.jsp?cid=COL_MS&bid=FS

http://www.gunsnguys.com/home_ns.htm

Don't let the prices on the "Guns&Guys" site fool you. The prices are in HongKong Dollars 1.00 USD = 7.79340 HKD so, not too bad..Anyway, they carry the WaShan modelguns in the "others" category. They usually have the guns that no one else has in stock...

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[tiksom]

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[mark]

I am not 100% sure, but, i think that FS and WaShan are the same company. As they appear similar in the photo's at least. I do own some all metal modelguns mostly Submachine guns/"assault" rifles, but i have a couple of handguns as well. (Marushin Schnelfeuerpistole and a Kokusai S&W M29 .44) I have fired the Schnelfeuerpistole a few times but not the M29.

All modelguns need to be cleaned as soon as the firing session is concluded, to ensure that rusting/corrosion is kept in check. This is due to the many steel springs and other zinc/metal parts that the vast majority of the modelguns have in their construction.

I think that the best method is still the baking soda/vinegar/hot water solution and the careful use of a hair drier. Along with a light spray of silicone after ward..

[tiksom]

[John]

This HwaSan (or FS) PPK/S is a clone to the Marushin PPK/S. Many of the parts of the Marushin's PPK/S can be interchanged with this HwaSan's. (But it may affect the firing performance as it may be a bit tight or loose with foreign parts!)
One interesting point is that the grip of the HwaSan's PPK/S is made of metal! So that explains the overall weight of the HwaSan PPK/S!
However, there is a wooden grp for this PPK/S available as optonal item from HwaSan and it is a fairly nicely made product and it also fits nicely to the Marushin's PPK/S.

The price of this HwaSan PPK/S is higher than the Marushin's PPK/S but close to the Marushin's PPK in Hong Kong.

Anyway, it is always cool to touch & hold a metal modelgun, no where can a plastic modelgun to come close.

I saw the MF silencer in the shop many months ago and once thought I need to buy this. But after closer look, I gave it up as it looks a bit odd with the connector (just push insert, not screw).

[nstgprops]

[John]

Hi nstgprops,

Sorry that I don't have time to go to the shops in HK in coming weeks to check that PPK for you. But from the Marushin's site about this silencer version:
http://www.marushin-kk.co.jp/itemmoppksilencer.html

There is detailed description about the silencer. though it is written in Japanese, you may may on-line translator to roughly understand the meaning (some translation is a bit funny). I used Microsoft translator and you may try other on-line translators.
From the description, I think the silencer is made of Aluminum. Anyway, you may further check with your intended seller to confirm this.

"Quotes from the site":

Within the year 600 Ding period fully qualified production special model. Not to be missed!
Please understand beforehand because it is reserved the remaining number will be made due up to reintroduce the.

• All aluminum silencer are scraping out part best realistic gem, was up 10 points. Detachable screw in.

• Silencer hold firmly to ensure silencers for barrels and augmented with aluminum metal screw joints and silencers.

●ノーマルバレルとサイレンサー用ネジ付きバレルの２本付き。バレル元のガタつきを無くしました。

●マガジンケースはWALTHERのロゴが入った、特別仕様。さらに新規作成のフィンガーレストの無いフラットボトムタイプのマガジンが追加付属します（こちらにもＷＡＬＴＨＥＲのロゴが入ります）。

• Separately as part of the silencer, dedicated barrels, and specially designed magazine is due on the production, so far sight stands does not.

• NEW プラグファイアーカートリッジブローバックモデル. Engraved silver chip (planned), rim of cartridge is self-signed (planned).

• Heavy is best slide and frame together made ＨＷ so.

● WALTHER company certified model Licensed Trademark of Carl Walther GmbH Germany

• モデルガン so not etc ＢＢ missile launcher.

[nstgprops]

Wondering if someone can clear this up for me: the Wa Shan (FS) PPK/S (including many other Wa Shan all-metal model guns) at UnCompany is listed as a "dummy only." Is it in fact not blowback / cap-firing?

http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct.asp?subcatid=384

I've read here on the forums that Taiwan is cracking down on all-metal PFCs, but UnCompany (like Den Trinity) is based in Hong Kong....so what gives? They aren't allowed to export these guns either? Does UnCompany have to say it's a "dummy only" for legal reasons? If so, Why doesn't Den Trinity and Guys n Guns have the same disclaimer? Is Wa Shan not making all-metal PFCs anymore?

I'm a bit confused, but know that I do want to buy a cap-firing model, not an inert one that just looks good on a shelf.

nstgprops

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[tiksom]

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[John]

Hi nstgprops,

Yes, tiksom is right that due to legal reasons, the HK on-line stores claim those cap firing models as dummy models. No cap is included in the box, though the cartridges are there. The WaShan models that are sold in HK shops are "usually" cap firing models. The WaShan PPK/S which I have is 100% cap firing capable. But I still suggest you to confirm with the seller first as WasShan may change its product from time to time in order to meet both Taiwan's export rule and the other countries law.

And likely you should also request the seller to paint the muzzle in orange for you before the shipment as those models do not come with the orange muzzles.

[mark]

As far as i know, the only modelguns that where stripped of the cartridges and firing internals where the modelguns that where imported into the U.S in the 1970's~1980's. These where imported and sold by the collectors armory in Alexandra Virginia. These where stripped of their cartridges, firing internal parts and all of their original Japanese instructions as well.